What do you think it is that would cause an Biblical egalitarian not to want to identify as a feminist? Also, what would make a feminist (christian) not want to identify with the Biblical egalitarian label?
Wow! This is one of my favorite posts yet! So many great quotes. I am a feminist and an Biblical egalitarian. One thing I have noticed or sort of inherently felt is that some people just want to be labeled egalitarian, and that is fine I would never purport to tell someone what they should label themselves especially when the impressions these labels give are constantly changing and we’re probably trying to change their perceptions often ourselves. The thing that I wanted to point out though, and it could just be all in my head, is that feminist thought processes seem to be more open to egalitarians and all that they entail and want to represent, while egalitarians on seldom occasions want to push away from associations with feminism because they perceive it as selfish, worldly or cold-hearted man haters. I just sense that some people who just use the egalitarian label and push away from feminism are drawing divisions. I just would love to see those divisions go away because I do feel they are partly from misconceptions of feminism. I do fully understand that they are different and have different goals I just wish they would draw on each other more often as you seem to be representing so beautifully in this post.
Again with the woman who is sick of being criticized for wanting to be a mom. That’s not a thing us sexists do. We LIKE when you go the traditional route. I think most of these girls are equating sexism with, “Anything that makes me feel bad.” Feminism made a lot of big promises but “Never feeling bad” was not one of them.
But it’s feminists who think rape jokes are the problem not sexists. If you really want more feminism, you had better prepare yourself for a lot less rape jokes.
These people are confused and sad. I hope to God most women aren’t as extreme as these weirdos. Especially that first chick with the beard. She sucks. Also, maybe next time go to a women gynecologist. I mean, I get it, I definitely do not want to go to a male proctologist. I just don’t. I do not want another dude sticking his finger in my asshole. I don’t want anybody sticking anything in my ass. I’d feel way way more comfortable with the exam if it was taken by a female doctor. And not for any kind of sexual gratification either. It’s just…you know…no homo.
I need feminism so that I can justifiably hire the unqualified 22 year old woman I want to bang over an otherwise qualified pool of male applicants.
So I want to be a strong woman, in movement terms, and not admit I have any real problems that I can’t find a personal solution to (except those directly related to the capitalist system).
The bad things that are said about us as women are either myths (women are stupid), tactics women use to struggle individually (women are bitches), or are actually things that we want to carry into the new society and want men to share too (women are sensitive, emotional).
The members of one group want to set up a private daycare center without any real analysis of what could be done to make it better for little girls, much less any analysis of how that center hastens the revolution.
One reason that I often have is that this thing is so important to me that I want to be very sure that we’re doing it the best way we know how, and that it is a “right” action that I feel sure about.
I strongly believe that we are equal before the Lord. But this does not mean that we have equal roles. Men are not more saved than women nor are they more or less important in the Kingdom, but if the Bible says anything about roles, it is that God Himself has designated a distinction. As a husband, I am commanded by Scripture to love my wife as Christ loves the Church. That means that I put my interests aside for her. So I do the cooking and help clean and raise the kids.
Also, I really appreciate you loving your wife in such a great way. I would challenge your logic though when it comes to you saying that men and women can be equal before God but have unequal, God-given roles. If we were truly equal before God, why would He feel the need to give us unequal roles? It doesn’t seem to fit. People are either equal or they are not. Let me know what you think of the resources above and feel free to contact me through the website and we can talk more. I would love to!
And while I have not experienced harassment in the church, I certainly have when it comes to just walking around my college campus. My friends and I like to go dancing and there was a recent incident where a guy tried to touch me innapropriately; I was able to get away from the guy (thankfully) but the rest of the night I kept wondering why I have trouble sticking up for myself. I want to be Christ-like in these situations, but I also want to make it clear that unwanted attention and taking advantage of people (in whatever form in may be given) is not OK.
K., it is definitely a learning process. I am still figuring out how I want to respond to these kinds of situations, and I feel for you. Don’t be too hard on yourself. It is really hard to be in those situations. I think the more we talk about it, the more others feel like they can stand up too 🙂 Thank you for your comment!